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joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an incredibly popular position. it's important for republicans to know that the white house is not going to accept any kind of a deal. that's the point he was trying to make. i think all the leverage now is with the democrats, with the president. the american public is on his side. i think it's important for the republicans not to think that they can just get any kind of deal out of him because if they do go over
joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a...
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this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few
this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of...
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as we mentioned treasury secretary said today, the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to raising taxes on the rich. all this week, we've been focusing on what it is about this congress and this administration that makes it seem like compromise is a dirty word. certainly the extremes in the party seem to view it that way. we've been talking with past congressional leaders who have sat down at the negotiating table, facing sharp differences with the other political party in the past and still managing to come out with a deal. today, i spoke a short while ago with former senate majority leader trent lott, author of "herding cats: a life in politics." senator lott, you and senator mitchell wrote op-eds. and offering some solutions. you said one solution is to hold congress at hearings, marking up bills going on legislation. most americans would agree with that but be surprised to hear, i mean, that's their job. i think most of us, you know, would assume, isn't that their job description? >> well, they've slowly slipped away from that over t
as we mentioned treasury secretary said today, the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to raising taxes on the rich. all this week, we've been focusing on what it is about this congress and this administration that makes it seem like compromise is a dirty word. certainly the extremes in the party seem to view it that way. we've been talking with past congressional leaders who have sat down at the negotiating table, facing sharp differences with...
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there is all this talk whether the obama administration will crackdown on colorado and washington, and not let them do it. >> no. >> cenk: how do you think that will play out. >> first of all he doesn't have to worry about an election. obama has tipped his hand when he legalized the gay marriage. so all he has to do is reschedule pot from scheduled one to schedule two then it becomes a medical issue and then the states can decide themselves if they want it legal or not. >> cenk: tommy, he broke records on drug dispensary raids his first term. he appointed the bush appointee the head of the dea. >> he's also a black guy from hawai'i who used to surf. >> cenk: most importantly, he used to smoke. >> that's what i'm saying into that's what drives me crazy. at least the last three presidents smoked marijuana. they didn't serve any jail time. they became president of the united states. and you served nine months. >> not only a pot smoker, but cocaine user, george bush. >> cenk: yes. >> the hypocrisy are bedfellows. >> cenk: i heard you took the plea deal to spare your son and your wife. >> t
there is all this talk whether the obama administration will crackdown on colorado and washington, and not let them do it. >> no. >> cenk: how do you think that will play out. >> first of all he doesn't have to worry about an election. obama has tipped his hand when he legalized the gay marriage. so all he has to do is reschedule pot from scheduled one to schedule two then it becomes a medical issue and then the states can decide themselves if they want it legal or not....
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again today some members of the obama administration met with members of congress to discuss the libyan chaos. this story just drip, drip, drip. but in egypt things are getting very intense. as thousands of protesters demonstrate against the muslim brotherhood trying to seize totalitarian powers in that country as we predicted they would. sadly many measures don't care about what happens over seas but author brad thor who writes contemporary thrillers believes there suspect more to the libyan situation than we know. there thor, the author of the book blacklist joins us now from chicago. what's your headline here, brad? >> well, my headline is next week it's going to be three months since the killing of ambassador stevens and we don't know any more now than we did three months ago. and that is not good for our republic. >> bill: do you see because you research your buicks fairly thoroughly. the key to selling books in your genre is to make them realistic that people who read them go you know, this could really happen. so when you are looking at what happened in benghazi, libya, what are
again today some members of the obama administration met with members of congress to discuss the libyan chaos. this story just drip, drip, drip. but in egypt things are getting very intense. as thousands of protesters demonstrate against the muslim brotherhood trying to seize totalitarian powers in that country as we predicted they would. sadly many measures don't care about what happens over seas but author brad thor who writes contemporary thrillers believes there suspect more to the libyan...
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these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world ascending on him? >> it's hard to see how this advances his cause, except as part of the negotiation. if you're trying to get a better deal for your family, then, maybe it's useful. >> would this create an internal coup, with his background? i don't know how sane he is or not, and what he's done. he's killing his own people. he's butchering his own people. when do the colonels come after him, to use a latin phrase? >> i don't think that happens. if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the
these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world...
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is this the fight that the obama administration really wants to take up freshly inaugurated, freshly into its new term to try to map out big, bold leadership instead of digging these trenches down the line that are going to have pitfalls and stakes all buried in it? >> i come from the school of thought that this country has overcome a lot more than just a few extra dollars. i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this economy will continue to move forward. i don't believe that we're going to go into a huge, deep recession again if these bush tax cuts expire. i do believe that you can strengthen the economy if you let everything go off the cliff and come back and put in front of the american people and do a better job for the economy. there's up side either way you go. the president has got boehner in an untenable position. he doesn't have very many avenues to a victory right now but he's got a good escape, thomas. all john boehner has to do to exit out of this quickly is to say he won the election, we didn't, the american people in every survey say this is where we're
is this the fight that the obama administration really wants to take up freshly inaugurated, freshly into its new term to try to map out big, bold leadership instead of digging these trenches down the line that are going to have pitfalls and stakes all buried in it? >> i come from the school of thought that this country has overcome a lot more than just a few extra dollars. i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this economy will continue to move forward. i don't believe...
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the obama administration has made it clear they want to prevent them. israel has made it even clearer they want to prevent them from getting it, it is certain amount of nuclear weapons debilities. i think it wrong perceives it is risky to try to get -- iran perceives it is risky to get a nuclear weapon at this time. they would have had one by now if it had not been for the actions of the international community. if they are deterred now, will they be in the future? one of the worries we have is that if it is easy for them to make, a bomb, they will be more likely to make the decision to do it. there have been other cases with no weapons, where they had beaten and technical ability, the political decision to do so was a lot -- where they had the technical ability, the political decision to do so was a lot easier. their nuclear capabilities are growing so fast that perhaps in 2014, they will actually have secret capability and it could produce weapons-grade uranium and we will not even know what happened until they choose to rivulet. -- reveal it. the man
the obama administration has made it clear they want to prevent them. israel has made it even clearer they want to prevent them from getting it, it is certain amount of nuclear weapons debilities. i think it wrong perceives it is risky to try to get -- iran perceives it is risky to get a nuclear weapon at this time. they would have had one by now if it had not been for the actions of the international community. if they are deterred now, will they be in the future? one of the worries we have is...
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. >> reporter: wolf, the challenge is for the obama administration to figure out exactly what bashar al assad is up to with his deadly arsenal. the horror remains unspeakable. 25 years ago saddam hussein unleashed one of the worst poison gas attacks in history. thousands were killed. now, in syria, u.s. concerns are growing by the hour that bashar al assad may be planning the same thing against his citizens. >> the intelligence that we have raises serious concerns that this is being considered. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence shows syria has mixed chemical compounds needed to make a deadly agent that can quickly kill thousands. >> the united states and our allies are facing the prospect of an imminent use of weapons of mass destruction in syria. and this may be the last warning we get. >> reporter: the u.s. is not precisely saying what the syrians are doing, but there are two ways of mixing elements to make a saren filled weapon. >> you have to handle it very, very carefully. a drop will kill you. often it's done at the last minute. there's another style. >> reporter: chemicals placed
. >> reporter: wolf, the challenge is for the obama administration to figure out exactly what bashar al assad is up to with his deadly arsenal. the horror remains unspeakable. 25 years ago saddam hussein unleashed one of the worst poison gas attacks in history. thousands were killed. now, in syria, u.s. concerns are growing by the hour that bashar al assad may be planning the same thing against his citizens. >> the intelligence that we have raises serious concerns that this is being...
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i think we have said ad nauseam what the obama administration is proposing -- >> techniquely the nazis didn't want to kill the pour -- >> stephanie: thank you, jim. >> which would make them extreme right-wingers. >> stephanie: i'm sure it is so noted at news busters, as they are busily transcripting the new transcript as we talk about the old transcript. no miller prefers to conjure up ominous images of woodchipers just over the horizon. whatever it takes to keep her amused. >> well, yeah kind of the point of the show. [ applause ] >> stephanie: we have got all the mulch we need between stephanie miller's ears. >> pow! >> stephanie: don't confuse mulch with soggy shredded wheat. happy face. >> what does that mean? >> stephanie: if anyone is potential fodder or mulch this gas bag is. >> yeah, so there. >> stephanie: all right. thank you. [ applause ] >> stephanie: news busters. i love you so much. i really do. okay. forty-four minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: welcome to the party barn. make we take your order? it's the "stephanie miller sh
i think we have said ad nauseam what the obama administration is proposing -- >> techniquely the nazis didn't want to kill the pour -- >> stephanie: thank you, jim. >> which would make them extreme right-wingers. >> stephanie: i'm sure it is so noted at news busters, as they are busily transcripting the new transcript as we talk about the old transcript. no miller prefers to conjure up ominous images of woodchipers just over the horizon. whatever it takes to keep her...
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the obama administration has said the study will be central to the decision on whether to export. he said exporting the gas would be a bigger impact on the economy. >> slap in the face of dow chemical. of coke, not coke the beverage company. but this was something that was hotly disputed within the romney campaign. he really let this stuff go because the romney campaign had some very big givers that were chemical companies. >> do we know, say, very bad, how much will prices conceivableably go up if we become an exporter of natural gas? is it that great a difference? >> we burn offer more natural gas than we use. burn off, in other words literally, you see those flames, we flare more than we use. so we got a real excess of this stuff. >> the government says that the -- 6.6% of current u.s. consumption. >> why would prices move that dramatically at all? wouldn't they just come down globally? >> the average, our $16 goes to $4. it costs $7 to get stuff from the united states. >> you should argue that they should go down because they went be the only one. dominion has brooif cove, tha
the obama administration has said the study will be central to the decision on whether to export. he said exporting the gas would be a bigger impact on the economy. >> slap in the face of dow chemical. of coke, not coke the beverage company. but this was something that was hotly disputed within the romney campaign. he really let this stuff go because the romney campaign had some very big givers that were chemical companies. >> do we know, say, very bad, how much will prices...
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house republicans say there will be no deal if tax ritz go up and the obama administration says it's ready to go thelma and louise style over the cliff on january 1. if that's the case, wendell goler live at the white house with what we know is going on behind the scenes. anything happening? >> steve, the president and house speaker john boehner talked on the phone yesterday, but they agreed not to characterize their conversation. so it's unclear how much progress they made. from the outside, it does seem they've moved a bit closer with boehner now agreeing to raise tax collection from the wealthy, though not by raising tax rates. >> we've got to cut spending and i believe to put revenues on the table. the revenues we're putting on the table will come from, guess who, the rich! there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> the president lobbied big business leaders yesterday with an appearance at the business round table. his aides say
house republicans say there will be no deal if tax ritz go up and the obama administration says it's ready to go thelma and louise style over the cliff on january 1. if that's the case, wendell goler live at the white house with what we know is going on behind the scenes. anything happening? >> steve, the president and house speaker john boehner talked on the phone yesterday, but they agreed not to characterize their conversation. so it's unclear how much progress they made. from the...
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and under this administration, under president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax reform by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what america wants. this is our opportunity to do the big things. this is our moment to provide that leadership that america desperately wants and we stand here ready to take the action necessary. >> the american people are hurting right now and now is the moment where we need to step up to the plate and solve the problem. cann't know how any of us look our kids and grandkids in the eye and explain to them that we aren't willing to pay for the things
and under this administration, under president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an...
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and the obama administration almost like a character from "seinfeld" said we are going to do this out of spite and said we are going to have to raise the rates rather than do this loophole closing thing and all of the rest. the problem with that is that presidents get very few do officer, one ever the few that they get is right after an election they can change the tone, they can sort of start over and instead of doing that and trying to figure out how to fulfill this promise that obama has always made about being bipartisan he's decided just to sort of do the same thing he did with the stimulus, which is to try to steam roll the republicans, to crush them, to placate his base, and it has the potential to create another four years of partisan whommer and tong fighting in washington. jon: i wanted to get your reaction to what the treasury secretary had to say in that report from mike emanuel a minute ago. he was asked flat out is the white house ready to go over the fiscal cliff and boom he says, absolutely, as if that is a good thing. i mean there are defense contractors who are going
and the obama administration almost like a character from "seinfeld" said we are going to do this out of spite and said we are going to have to raise the rates rather than do this loophole closing thing and all of the rest. the problem with that is that presidents get very few do officer, one ever the few that they get is right after an election they can change the tone, they can sort of start over and instead of doing that and trying to figure out how to fulfill this promise that...